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Posted by: PB, February 8, 2010, 3:59pm
Could anyone recommend a good server company for a large forum and website -
The forum is at approx 8,000 members.
We are with 1&1 at present but seem to be experiencing more and more problems of late.
Tonight for example the site has gone down right at the end of a charity auction (approx 250 online)
Any recommendations?
Posted by: evixion, February 8, 2010, 4:03pm; Reply: 1
If you don't mind telling me, how much do you pay for hosting? (not trying to put my nose in business that shouldn't be known)
One thing I would suggest if your site is big enough to rent a VPS or even a dedicated server. And if you need any of those, I know a few good places. For web hosting though it would really depend on your site load, database size, bandwidth usage, etc.
Posted by: PB, February 8, 2010, 4:09pm; Reply: 2
If you don't mind telling me, how much do you pay for hosting? (not trying to put my nose in business that shouldn't be known)
One thing I would suggest if your site is big enough to rent a VPS or even a dedicated server. And if you need any of those, I know a few good places. For web hosting though it would really depend on your site load, database size, bandwidth usage, etc.
We pay approx £70 per month.
I can supply the other info to you once i get back on the site (currently out of action)
Posted by: evixion, February 8, 2010, 4:18pm; Reply: 3
Ok no rush. I assume you may be wanting a UK based solution and not American.
For $15 USD I know a VPS can be purchased which gives you web site access as well as a shell account and the ability to install any extra software/packages you may need and for $99 USD a dedicated server can be purchased (similar to VPS except VPS is shared and a dedicated server is all yours).
I can research good solutions for you with any country.
Posted by: PB, February 8, 2010, 4:34pm; Reply: 4
Ok no rush. I assume you may be wanting a UK based solution and not American.
For $15 USD I know a VPS can be purchased which gives you web site access as well as a shell account and the ability to install any extra software/packages you may need and for $99 USD a dedicated server can be purchased (similar to VPS except VPS is shared and a dedicated server is all yours).
I can research good solutions for you with any country.
Thanks mate
The Country isnt vital - all we want is a good system in place - The site is currently down at least once a week, including tonight which was an important night with a good sale organised by a couple of members.
I will furnish all the info once i have it
Many thanks for the help.
Posted by: iCONICA, February 8, 2010, 5:05pm; Reply: 5
Having done lots of research, trial and error with UK hosts, there really aren't very many good ones. I've been with 4 different UK hosts and been forced to move elsewhere each time. So I wouldn't recommend UK hosting.
I live in the UK and the climate here, business costs, staff requirements etc... means that UK hosting is generally very expensive, very unreliable and when you think you've found a good one, their data centres are probably US or Germany based.
All the sites I run, which include some very worldwide sites are all now US based and I've never had any problems. Houston, Texas seems to be the world's home of hosting. The majority of websites online are hosted in Texas, mainly due to "ThePlanet", the world's biggest data Center, hosting provider being based there. All my sites are with HostGator now, a very reliable host, very good customer service via phone, chat or tickets. HostGator are a massive host, and very highly spoken of online, and guess what? Their servers are in "ThePlanet" data centres too...
Yes they have shell access via SSH, they run CentOS and already have every software package I've ever needed already installed, Zend, Python, iOn Cube, Ruby, Rails, MySQL, Curl, PHPMyAdmin, cPanel, GD, Perl, PHP etc...
To summarise, I'd avoid UK hosts like the plague...
Have a look at HostGator, or follow other recommendations, up to you. :)
Posted by: PB, February 8, 2010, 5:44pm; Reply: 6
As far as we know its on its own server, we have only recently bought the site so dont have full access as yet to everything.
We have been told it has unlimited bandwidth and a substantial webspace left?
Thats all we know for now.
Just to chuck a question in maybe more so for Iconica being British based but obviously open to all - What is your view on 1&1 - and what costs are involved in the Hostgator etc?
Many thanks
Posted by: evixion, February 8, 2010, 5:46pm; Reply: 7
I run a VPS with around 10 sites, a few voice chat programs, misc shell scripts, and a medium size gamining community from a host called Tektonic. They are good but occasionally (since it is a VPS), the host server will get attacked and lag down the site causing the forum to load after 10 seconds (which is a huge deal to me).
As far as OS goes, that is preference (I prefer Debian myself :P). Me or iCONICA can assist you if possible :)
Posted by: Nat, February 8, 2010, 6:42pm; Reply: 8
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Having done lots of research, trial and error with UK hosts, there really aren't very many good ones. I've been with 4 different UK hosts and been forced to move elsewhere each time. So I wouldn't recommend UK hosting.
I live in the UK and the climate here, business costs, staff requirements etc... means that UK hosting is generally very expensive, very unreliable and when you think you've found a good one, their data centres are probably US or Germany based.
Ahem... that is 100% untrue and a very biased opinion.
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To summarise, I'd avoid UK hosts like the plague...
another wild allegation that should be listened to with a pinch of salt.
I have had, and indeed still have websites, that now run into the hundreds, all running on UK hosts, and problems? what problems?
iCONICA once again, the personal issue that you have, has spilled over again, please consider what you write before hitting the "post reply"
Posted by: threewishes, February 8, 2010, 6:46pm; Reply: 9
Im on a dedicated server at 1&1. No issues.
Their mail does have issues..
Posted by: iCONICA, February 8, 2010, 6:58pm; Reply: 10
Nat, I do not have any personal issues. I'm a web developer and have had the privalidge of working at a web hosting company (In manchester, too), so I understand the issues they face. From a personal perspective, I have had a 100% bad experience rate with UK based hosts and lots of UK hosts are moving their data centres outside the UK, providing only sales and customer service as the "UK" part of the UK hosting...
I don't understand how that's a biased opinion. If I remember rightly, don't you have a small web hosting company yourself, "A nice place"? Or are a reseller of UK hosting? If so, then that's your reasoning for being so defensive and you are in fact, the biased one.
Please stop referring to my advice against UK hosting as "personal issues that have spilled over". It's getting quite offensive now. It's an open forum and everyone is entitled to their own views. The poster is more than welcome to make up their own mind on how seriously to take my post. There's no need to belittle my post.
Posted by: iCONICA, February 8, 2010, 7:01pm; Reply: 11
1&1 have their servers located in Germany. They are a massive web host with impressive data centres. The company I work for now hosts their clients' sites with 1&1. Their speed is consistently fast and the uptime as high as you need it... Their telephone support lacks enthusiasm but if you're unlikely to ring that, then you're fine. :)
Posted by: Nat, February 8, 2010, 7:22pm; Reply: 12
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Please stop referring to my advice against UK hosting as "personal issues that have spilled over". It's getting quite offensive now. It's an open forum and everyone is entitled to their own views. The poster is more than welcome to make up their own mind on how seriously to take my post. There's no need to belittle my post.
Sure I can do that, but when you have also taken away your wild statments about hosting companies in the UK.
FYI, yes I do have a company called A Nice Place that does resell hosting? but I do a lot more than that, a lot more, that I do not publish here (think about it)
On a global state, each country will indeed have good and the not so good <firms> but to state that your words
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To summarise, I'd avoid UK hosts like the plague...
are wrong, and indeed as a mod here, you have again over stepped the mark, to give a one sided view, that
IS NOT IN ANY WAY ENDORSED BY EBLAH
Posted by: richmond, February 9, 2010, 2:13am; Reply: 13
Posted by: iCONICA, February 9, 2010, 9:43am; Reply: 14
Nat, can I ask why you're defending UK hosts so passionately? Beyond owning a hosting reselling company yourself, which of course makes you massively biased...
The OP asked for opinions on hosting and I gave mine. What's your problem? Giving out the impression that even the E-Blah team itself isn't very stable, with you starting open arguments doesn't help E-Blah at all.
Posted by: richmond, February 9, 2010, 2:35pm; Reply: 15
Im sure i asked my browser take me to eblah and not to a children play ground :( ??) :'(
Posted by: evixion, February 9, 2010, 3:01pm; Reply: 16
Back on topic: what would be your preference? A VPS or a Dedicated Server. I sell hosting space also if it is a small to medium size forum. I am not sure how a very large system would work with high traffic.
Staying back on the topic though, if you could detail how much space you would need, how much bandwidth you would need. I can search my prices as well as other providers :)
Posted by: PB, February 9, 2010, 5:38pm; Reply: 17
Back on topic: what would be your preference? A VPS or a Dedicated Server. I sell hosting space also if it is a small to medium size forum. I am not sure how a very large system would work with high traffic.
Staying back on the topic though, if you could detail how much space you would need, how much bandwidth you would need. I can search my prices as well as other providers :)
Thanks we are looking for at least 2.5gb per day at least.
The site is down again tonight for most of the night :( :( :( :(
I will get back to you on space once i know
Thanks
Posted by: evixion, February 9, 2010, 5:46pm; Reply: 18
I know I can supply the bandwidth and space (not for free of course :P) but I am unsure about the load. If you would be interested in testing my hosting let me know. Of course if someone makes a better offer then you will not hurt my feelings by using them :)
Let me know of any assistance I can provide.
Posted by: PB, February 9, 2010, 5:47pm; Reply: 19
I know I can supply the bandwidth and space (not for free of course :P) but I am unsure about the load. If you would be interested in testing my hosting let me know. Of course if someone makes a better offer then you will not hurt my feelings by using them :)
Let me know of any assistance I can provide.
Can i ask what you mean about load? (absolute muppet where internet is concerned
Posted by: Nat, February 9, 2010, 6:10pm; Reply: 20
Posted by: PB, February 9, 2010, 6:18pm; Reply: 21
Please also see ->
http://www.eblah.com/forum/m-1242839011.64898/ As this has been asked before, and I notice that Heart Internet (UK) came out as the winners, so it may be worth contacting them for a quote
http://www.heartinternet.co.uk/ You will get good value ;)
Thanks Nat,
Will take a look now - Heart Internet have sent a reply to us about this and said we would only require a home basic pro package which is suprising us slightly?
The main aim for us is to obviously find the best we can within our means and that meets our needs - fingers crossed we find it soon before we lose our members.
Posted by: Nat, February 9, 2010, 6:33pm; Reply: 22
well, what you see is what you get. I have used them for years, and no problems. I have ALL of my eblah forums with them, again no problems. You have a stack of features, and 24/7 support. You also have one click backup, so you can back up your entire site very easy. Plus if you ever did get a problem they also have a back up to fall back on.
If you have a spare domain, or if you wished to transfer your less traffic site, I would be prepared to help at cost price.
I do not flip and have been here with eblah, since the start, and even Justin, has some things running with me ;)
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