I think it would be a good mod for subforums like i host a forum now that has them for a paintball site say like  the catagorie has a tree that has tournaments upcoming tournaments past and well inside tournaments upcoming i have all the list of the big sponsered tounreys say like the nppl psp and a few others just ot keep them clean and all can this be done.

It's on my list.  >:(  Just haven't been working on E-Blah much.  Busy with life and server ... server right now anyway.  :-/



- Justin

Understandable just thought i would put my 2 cents in on the subject will look forward to those thanks.

It's okay, I'll try to do it one of these days.

hello  Justin ( I am total new here)

I talk with on ICQ about sub categories ( sub boards )  a sub under a sub , sub , sub  like  Yabb se have it  ( simplemachines.org)

is a very important options of all -  can we get it to P7 upgrade Please


PS: I have installed this P5 vertion perfect work just out of the box - today I have upgrade to P6 beta and it run without any errors - perfect -

I only have 1 problem with Yabb converter - I have a mega yabb 1.3 ( 270 mb data  http://www.sol812.com )I like
convert to eblah  but converter stop with "Variables " and speak can find  CAT.TXT  my directory info is correct  but converter cant see the file ??? pity


Thanks
SOL812

Yeah, it's going to be in a version ... but I don't think P7 can get it.  P7 is targeted towards faster speed and such.  And currently it's doing well ... but I don't want to add many new features in it this go around (or large features like this).  A lot of files will need modifing when this change takes effect, that is why.

- Justin

So, is it going to be in P8? I'll buy a license for it or make a donation if it has Sub forum feature even right now i'm college student and broke but still gladly do that. :yeahthat:

Sub-Forum seem to be a good idea to add in this board. That would be cool.

yes you all absolute right , was the most important subject to this bbs board - many want it.

problem is that many programmes look blind into what people want, and not undertand why the damand this option - a programmer not use the bbs script same way as professional webmasters and private "lite" level users do - with other words - we only get new options if " the programmer himself like it " and that is dangerus policy.

we also read  " justin" speak -" I have not done much" - well ?  people who believe in a products no like nagative words like this, bad advertisment  - from the core programmers - users or new people want to know they have full backup for future development - we also  read " I have minimum money donate now, or I stop the project " that is absolute out of question - very negative words - ofcouse I understand , a core developer team need money in some way, but you also know from beginning what you was going in to,  - and I believe we all  can help give something donation if the Copywrite was more fair in price - so with other words - the programmer who make a great job " when he work " focus more to inform about his private oconomic sitiation rather than do important options so he was able speak he had something very uniqe like sub categories and so on.

I am not 20 years old  but more close to 47 years - but I am professional in my work , as advisor for IT people in europe ,( I had 5 years good work in Compuserve.com) - I full undertand programmer words -  Justin just need learn listen more what we want  - and then try do more - and we gladly donate good money but we not like read about  " stop project if not - this and that "

so justin - to be fair with you - you told me it was just a 2 hours work ( or did you mean 2 days)  by ICQ - to make sub categories - so I not undertand why you not just ( if you claim speed is a factor) you make a  GOLD and PLATINUM vertion ( a free vertion, and a pay vertion with full loaded options ) - GOLD is with subcategories and maybe 0.0000001111199 % more slow  - and put a lot of extras inside this vertion - like calender, subcategories, links, chat forum, more autoresponders options, and many more business related things to help webmasters cut work time - and take like  25 or 35 USD for this copy 1 time  - with 1 year upgrade free - after 1 year people can renew  to 1 year more upgrade for 10 USD or less and upgrade of a board can be done automatic via internet from server to server . -

sorry my long letter - but better to write long with serious discussion in mind - some people need begin talk - but now I just jump over and get offtropic in more options sorry.

also I see many young people student - like to have  advansed options - but no like pay just 5 USD ( HA HA HA ) - well ALL you guys - this was old fasion tactic to just play a game to speak we not like pay - if you go to a bar in town how many BEER or  whisky can you buy or food or flowers to your girlfriend ,  ha ha ha ........ - for this low prices a BBS eblah board cost ( if get what we want)- if jusin go down in price - if many members not like pay - NOTHING but just   BLA BLA BLA - so please  why ask for more feautures - you allready have a free bbs board -
I believe Justin need understand  to focus on people who like pay , make a donate listing online who has donated so we see how many strong serious people really pay - more high category people - if people pay just 5.- USD for something they also Use the products more serios - but if for free - will never be serious and people just demand a lot without thinking in programmers fre time get damage too if have no control over working time.

I hope we can heve a dialog with out any begin "attack" or get angry - I just try wake some people up .........

thanks for nice products - I am new so I testing - at this moment I run a  2003 Yabb Platinum who have more options than Blah - not faster - but I dont care about a 0.0000999% faster board I look  at the features I have to work with - if Justin like a copy of my platinum I can sent you one and play with - is a more big vertion of the standart Yabb 1.3
but I am very positive with eblah - I have some universitys I will try let test this products and see how they like it - if ok - I will donate in future some money to Justin as my thank you to him - without his bbs I was not able offer same service to my client - so all this credit go to him - if choice is a eblah bbs.

have a great day - and let us see some feedback

Kind regards
SOL812  
end for now -  

PS: E-Blah support is very good - and offer truble shooting on clients server if bbs not work - I will say E-Blah have a outstanding nice service with a extra  +  I hope this will be a standart in future too .

Ok ...

For the first thing ... I work alone.  YaBB gets half it crap from the community (which is good in ways, or horrible in others, as half the "mod writters" there have poor and sloppy code -- yes, I wrote YaBB mods before, and I did the same thing).

Another thing, I've added many features I myself didn't care for persay, but I added them because the community wanted them (do you think I have added all those checkboxes in Admin center for me to turn on and off?  lol ... some I would never use).  This projects taken two years, and I'd say it's pretty large.  Larger than YaBB by a long shot -- it's taken them 3 or 4 years to get to 1.3, and the features are still old (yes, some new moderator features *yahoo*), and then the new version which has all the mods from the community (YaBB SP2 Betas -- which I'm guessing is what you're talking about).  I've looked into it, and a lot of it doesn't work as said (one instance I can speak of is the "stealth refrerrer" feature; it doesn't work in the Mozilla engine).  Just in the past year and a half E-Blah's went from tiny little board to a huge board.  Go look at the very first E-Blah forum (1.5 I believe).  It lacked many features, didn't look near as good, etc.

And yes, I've learned things along the way (I'm 17).  At the time when I made those statements (which wasn't about money really), E-Blah wasn't doing very well.  Since then it has taken off.  I asked the community for help, and obviously I got some.

Finally the speed/"faster" aspect of this whole thing.  If you have a forum, esspecially one written in perl, and it hogs up memory and CPU the server company may kick you off their servers.  YaBB eats it up.  Also, with larger forums (I'm talking like 150K+ forums), you wouldn't want a SLOW forum.  E-Blah has never been slower than .5 seconds on normal page loads (that I am aware of), .5 is about YaBB's best score.  Just words to think on.  Also, it still eats up close to 4.5/5 megs of ram.  P7 is getting 3.5/4/5 megs (depending on the pages).

Also, YaBB is an okay forum, I'm not trying to say that YaBB is just big and horrible.  Sure, I hate the way they handel things (IE: rating E-Blah zero to make them be above E-Blah once, which was quickly turned).  I used YaBB for about a year or two (although it was heavily modified).  That is my view, good forum ... just don't like the community.


- Justin

Justin do justice to your amazing work and service you rendered to all of us in the shape of E-Blah. You have to acknowledge that sub-forum is a must these days. E-Blah cannot afford to lag behind. Or are you willing to let E-Blah failing in the race? Just give it man. You can do it :-)

Justin, I must say this system is impressive.
I currently use yabb on 2 separate sites and getting code help with the mod's is difficult to say the least, most of the "good" coder's have disappeared.
And those that code the thing, if they would just insert markers in their mods like
+++++Mod code XXX start here+++++ at the beginning and the end of the mod  ::)
Since I always have to recode part of it to get it working right.
Once Yabb 2 is stable all the mods will have to be re written again anyway.

I am going to setup a test system of E-Blah and try a test conversion.
Sub Forums are a nice idea butt the Yabb version really does nothing special, butt a board folding mod is so much better.
A system that does not load a server down is really one of the most important feature's to have, you are correct about that.
Most have change to PHP or the Nuke version running SQL, and I hate SQL.
This seems like a reall nice version of a CGI system

Quoted from admin, posted April 12, 2004, 3:20pm at here

Ok ...

For the first thing ... I work alone.  YaBB gets half it crap from the community (which is good in ways, or horrible in others, as half the "mod writters" there have poor and sloppy code -- yes, I wrote YaBB mods before, and I did the same thing).

Another thing, I've added many features I myself didn't care for persay, but I added them because the community wanted them (do you think I have added all those checkboxes in Admin center for me to turn on and off?  lol ... some I would never use).  This projects taken two years, and I'd say it's pretty large.  Larger than YaBB by a long shot -- it's taken them 3 or 4 years to get to 1.3, and the features are still old (yes, some new moderator features *yahoo*), and then the new version which has all the mods from the community (YaBB SP2 Betas -- which I'm guessing is what you're talking about).  I've looked into it, and a lot of it doesn't work as said (one instance I can speak of is the "stealth refrerrer" feature; it doesn't work in the Mozilla engine).  Just in the past year and a half E-Blah's went from tiny little board to a huge board.  Go look at the very first E-Blah forum (1.5 I believe).  It lacked many features, didn't look near as good, etc.

And yes, I've learned things along the way (I'm 17).  At the time when I made those statements (which wasn't about money really), E-Blah wasn't doing very well.  Since then it has taken off.  I asked the community for help, and obviously I got some.

Finally the speed/"faster" aspect of this whole thing.  If you have a forum, esspecially one written in perl, and it hogs up memory and CPU the server company may kick you off their servers.  YaBB eats it up.  Also, with larger forums (I'm talking like 150K+ forums), you wouldn't want a SLOW forum.  E-Blah has never been slower than .5 seconds on normal page loads (that I am aware of), .5 is about YaBB's best score.  Just words to think on.  Also, it still eats up close to 4.5/5 megs of ram.  P7 is getting 3.5/4/5 megs (depending on the pages).

Also, YaBB is an okay forum, I'm not trying to say that YaBB is just big and horrible.  Sure, I hate the way they handel things (IE: rating E-Blah zero to make them be above E-Blah once, which was quickly turned).  I used YaBB for about a year or two (although it was heavily modified).  That is my view, good forum ... just don't like the community.


- Justin

Thanks, I try my best.  :)