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Mohsen32
September 18, 2008, 1:05am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Hi,
I am a new to E-Blah, and I think it's really more than I thought. It's growing more everyday and also E-Blah's great days are coming. I like the idea that developers are focusing on SEO, seo will make E-Blah more popular.
Nevertheless, Everything is clear and I have no problems with perl and it's great, but I think, If E-Blah dev team would have released a PHP version of it, E-Blah would become #1 of all!
What is your opinion about it?
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Well, E-Blah took a great amount of time and effort to become what it is today. Many thanks to the development team. I'm not sure that it would be all that easy to re-write E-Blah with PHP. You have to realize that PHP and Perl both have their strong points. I think Justin mentioned a while back why he chose Perl as the language for E-Blah. It might have had something to do with the fact that he preferred the programming syntax of Perl over PHP. I'm not quite sure though.


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It's not as simple as converting it to php, They're not the same and can't be converted.
The developer would have to completely rewrite E-Blah which is many years of work for php. I personally prefer the perl version.

I'm 97% sure there won't be a perl version. Why would you like a php version Mohsen?


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Quoted from iCONICA
Why would you like a php version Mohsen?

Well, As a matter of fact I don't "Like a php version of E-Blah", it's just something strange to me to see most of forum softwares out there are using php. According to my researches php seems to be more popular, perl more powerful.
It's allright with perl, Just asked .
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And PHP is waaay more hacked.  I mean, how many PHP/SQL 'solutions' are out there that seem to have almost weekly security updates?  Maybe it's like PCs getting more virus than Mac becuase more people use PCs?  Regardless, I think Eblah is the way to go as far as security!
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I second that!


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Here now, PHP is an excellent language.  Notice that I started back in 2001, and PHP was in it's very early stages (I think PHP 3 or early 4).

I just got back from ZendCon (the conference about PHP).  I've been working with it daily for a few months now and it's leaps and bounds easier to work with than Perl and in many ways much, much more powerful.  Not to say, functions that help out a lot (where as in Perl, you'd have to write hundreds of lines of code for 10 lines in PHP).

That said, I still like to keep E-Blah maintained because I do think it's a good program.  I've just not had the time lately to spend as I did last year or the year before (school and work and life is happening all at once).  

Regarding PHP and security -- the early versions are a little less secure.  With the newer versions they are depreciating a lot of things that caused it to be insecure in the first place (magic_quotes, safe_mode, etc).


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Thanks for replying, good info!


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I've just not had the time lately to spend as I did last year or the year before (school and work and life is happening all at once).

Ok, I am sure we all understand you, but, Does it mean that we should expect fewer releases and features?
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There's been fewer releases lately.

Martin and the others who did modifications wanted it that way though, because it used to be that I would change a lot about the code all at once and mess up all of the modifications that had been made.


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Ha
But there are users that don't trust mods and want to do it without them. Do you think it's an enough good reason to hesitate developing main project for just sake of modders who can't get used to the code changes?
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There's no reason not to trust mods, If they say they'll install correctly, all green text, then they'll uninstall correctly.

Justin didn't mean they can't get used to the changes, He meant that martin spends alot of time adjusting the mods for each release, Some code changes knock them out, have to be fixed. If justin releases new versions all the time, Martin and others who supply mods will have to test and change the code in all the mods over again for the new release. Besides, It would annoy and stress people out if new versions were released all the time.

My forum for instance has been modified so much (by myself and others) that upgrading would make me lose these custom mods. Then we'd have to re-mod my forum to the way it was for each version release. I'm still with 10.3.5 and don't plan to upgrade in the near future. Until sufficient new releases have been published to make it worth the while.

Just some thoughts...  


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Well, I now understand what Justin had been saying. The only suggestion I can give now is: fewer, and quality releases.
This way all sort of users would be satisfied.
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Well, I now understand what Justin had been saying. The only suggestion I can give now is: fewer, and quality releases.
This way all sort of users would be satisfied.


I've been trying to do this lately.


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